20131026 prc elementals

26/10/2013 prc elementals


I have had computer trouble this morning including the audio card in my desktop by not loading its driver. Repeated attempts to resolve it were unsuccessful. Having been clearly signalled that further chat from the source was available I abandoned further remedial attempts and have used Audacity to record this with archiving in mp3 form.


^We come on this occasion in order to continue the delivery on the important distinctions between elementals and other aspects of the model of agapéic space as well as contributing more information about the elementals themselves, as distinct from devas of various other kinds. There are some terminological difficulties and confusions which need to be clarified first. It is evident that the term elemental includes the devas of other species. The elemental in the range 15 to 25 on the agapéic scale of agapéic frequency is nevertheless a kind of supervisory focussed explicitly towards the environmental niche rather than the individual species. That is the first distinction.

The second distinction is that the elementals responsible for different environmental niches are not different from one another, merely focussed in a different direction for similar purpose.

Third, the elementals which are validly to be called devas are those explicitly with a focus towards the support of individual life species and the distinction is one of kind not class in the sense that the care for life in loving attending is no different on the part of any deva.

They are not in fact fundamentally distinct from the nodes of Dao-consciousness, as we are calling them, relating to the human species, for humans are on one level simply another animal. The distinction is, as we have explained at length elsewhere, that the individual node of Dao-consciousness is focussed on one individual rather than a group or class of individuals. So having clarified those things at least that far, we may continue.

The desire you show to hold these things up into the public arena, comment on them, explain them, clarify confusions and especially confusions with older terminology is exemplary. It is a large task. We are not confusing you too much, we hope, by raising descriptions which are somewhat at odds with traditional descriptions, precisely because the traditional descriptions have become confused in many ways and on multiple levels with a variety of motifs from different cultures, as well as confusions carried forward through time. And the case in point viewed this morning (Stanford University on Plato and Aristotle) are the attributes of the soul.

The term soul, therefore, is a highly contaminated term and is better dispensed with within this conversation, as we have done. So much is now known about the distinctions between personality at the biological mind level and its corresponding biological level drivers and inputs from the variety of senses, that this is intended to be a major reintroduction of clarified concepts, so as to fundamentally differentiate traditional descriptions from this modern description-set and model-set. So the introduction of these things is the first thing.

Second is the clarification of their various activities. You have asked for and we will provide a comprehensive listing of the elementals and their activity foci, if we can speak of it in that way.

The first class already encountered experientially is that of the undine (20131010 prccjl Undine), to use that originally French term, the elemental focussed towards quality control of the environmental niche of water. And within that, of course, there are many, many environmental niches. So to that extent then, the medium of water is a distribution across many environmental niches and therefore it is appropriate that the undine is a supervisory role, because the elementals in the form of devas directly associated with each individual species occupying the domain of water on the planet, are such as to comprise a class as determined by that over-arching watery environment.

In the same way, it can be said that there are elementals associated with the airy environment. That is, those species whose occupancy on the planet is partly or largely the environment comprising the gaseous atmosphere. That obviously also covers a very large class of species of a wide variety of kinds – insects and flying animals in particular. And we will not name that elemental-set at this time for it is such a broad class that there are better identified some sub-names.

As previously encountered, there are a variety of elementals associated with and responsible for the earthy environment. That is, that thin layer of soil, as it is commonly termed, within which many species of life inhabits that more solid environment for the purposes of their life and procreation.

Those are the prime three environments. Within each of those are many sub-environments, so again and correspondingly, there are sub-identifications to be made of the elementals appropriately responsible for those.

It is not our intention at this time to provide that complete listing, merely to indicate the general classification which can be used, that is, earth and water and sky, to use that term, actually the planetary atmospheric envelope.

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Peter Calvert - AgapeSchoolinz

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